Friendly Societies.

Years ago, before the Welfare State, trade unions and the like, people had to manage on their own; usually on starvation wages and unsatisfactory conditions. How it was to live in those days.
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#17 Friendly Societies.

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Years ago, before the Welfare State, trade unions and the like, people had to manage on their own; usually on starvation wages and unsatisfactory conditions. There was no sick pay or anything like it provided by the State the exception being the Workhouse and if you ended up in there after your working life you generally came out in a box.

But there were Friendly Societies throughout the land and some of these operated in Whaley Bridge or its surrounds.
The Band of Hope Hall on New Road for instance was built by The Sons of Temperance; it was for teetotallers only and when you joined you became a brother. I think it may still exist in some form even today.
The Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes operated as a charitable organisation in and around Whaley. They always had a ‘team’ at public events and had a formidable tug of war team usually pulling the Town Councillors off their feet.
The Shepherds Friendly Society (nothing to do with the Shepherds pub) had members and collectors in Whaley Bridge. It was formed in 1826 and was to relieve the sick and bury the dead among other objectives.
The Oddfellows was a similar organisation with the same aims but apart from the fact that there used to be, until recently, a pub at Whitehough called the Oddfellows I have no records of any of its operations around Whaley Bridge. That is not to say there weren’t any.

But Whaley Bridge did have its own unique Friendly Societies:

1. The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society.
2. The Top of Horwich Burial Society.

I have some records of both these bodies and I will put some information on here over the next few days.

The 150th anniversary of the railway extension will have to follow on from there as it is a large subject and I do not want to mess it up by getting things in the wrong order.

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Good morning all !

Any ideas how much money people would have paid into these "clubs" (just as a matter of interest, of course). If they were unable to work through illness did they get support while they were off work or was the only pay-out given to the family after the contributor had died?

Were these Friendly Societies similar to a "mutual" organisation whereby all profits went back into the fund?

As an aside, I have a pay card belonging to my Grandad whereby he paid money weekly/monthy (can't quite remember which and haven't got the card to hand at the moment) to the Stockport Infirmary. I'm not sure whether this was a type of insurance payment or whether it was for treatment which had already taken place - obviously, pre-NHS. :roll:

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#21 Re: Friendly Societies.

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Good morning Gnats,

I’ll come to the fees and sick payments and even burial costs shortly.
But suffice it to say The Top of Horwich Burial Society was known as “The Penny Club”

R. S-S



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#22 Re: Friendly Societies.

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The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society was established on the 16th October 1818 and published its aims and ideals.

These were set out under 9 separate heading as follows:

1. The Object.
2. Its Management
3. General Meetings
4. Duties of Officers
5. Admissions Subscriptions and Forfeits
6. Fines for disorder
7. Payments to the sick
8. Payments on death
9. Conform to and observe the Rules of the Statute 10 Geo.4.C.56


I’ll set out each of the above headings over the next week or so and number 9 will have to be explained as it contains many sub-headings and is a bit heavy going to be honest.

All the meetings of this Friendly Society were held at the Royal Oak, Taxal. That’s the Chimes of Taxal for those of us who can remember back as far as the 60’s and early 70’s.
So we are certainly on Lady Madonna territory here.

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1st The Object

The Object of the Friendly Institution called the "Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly
Society is to raise by subscriptions of the several Members thereof by voluntary Contributions or
donations a Stock or Fund for the mutual relief and maintenance of all the Members thereof in case
of Sickness and for the payment of certain sums of money on the death of any of such Members.

2nd Its Management

The Society shall be under the management of a President three Stewards three
Trustees a Treasurer a Committee of nine and Secretary to be appointed and subject to removal as
hereinafter set forth.

3rd General Meetings

1st The general Meetings of this Society shall be held at the Royal Oak Inn in
Taxal aforesaid at the times following that is to say on the first Saturday in February the first
Saturday in May on Taxal Wake Monday and on the first Saturday in November and so on in
regular succession 2nd A Special General Meeting may be convened by a Committee 3rd The
President Stewards and Committee shall be annually appointed at the General Meeting on Taxal
Wake Monday out of the Members of this Society but the Trustees or Treasurer and Secretary
may be appointed at any General Meeting or Special Meeting to be called for that purpose either
out of the Members of the Society or from the public as the Majority of the Members may at any
of their Meetings think fit and such Trustees Treasurer or Secretary shall continue in Office till
removal by the like Authority 4th Any person being a Member of this Society who shall refuse
to execute any Office in which he may be appointed shall pay down two shillings and six pence or
be Excluded



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4th Duty of Officers

1st The President to take the Chair at all General and Special Meetings and in all
Cases of Equality of Votes to have the casting vote The Stewards shall examine the accounts of
the Treasurer and take care that the same be produced read and, if carried, approved of at each
General Meeting of the Society with an account of the Names Residence and State of health of
those who may have been relieved or may have applied for relief.

2nd The Trustees are to
receive from the Treasurer the Monies not applicable to the exigencies of the Society and lay out
and invest the same in such manner pursuant to Statute 10 Geo 4 Chap 36 Sectn 13-31 as the
Society may desire at any General or Special Meeting

3rd The Treasurer shall be responsible for
such sums of Money as may from time to time be paid into his hands by the Secretary or by any
other person on account of this Institution and shall from time to time pay the Balance in his
hands or any sums not applicable and wanted for the exigencies of the Society to the Trustees for
the time being on being directed at any Special or General Meeting so to do He shall also
produce his Cash account at every General or Special Meeting and attend the same if required

4th The Committee shall when requested assist the Stewards visit the Sick collect contributions
fines and forfeitures assist in the investigation of accounts in the Examination of persons
proposed as Members of this Society and generally in enforcing its rules conducting its
affairs in all Cases not especially provided for And if any of them neglect or refuse to do his
duty he shall forfeit two shillings or be Excluded They shall have the power of provisionally
filling up their own number as well as of the Office of Treasurer or Secretary in all cases of death
or incapacity

5th The Secretary shall keep all the Books of Accounts attend the General Special
and Committee Meetings take Minutes of the proceedings at each Meeting and enter the same in a
Book to be provided for that purpose which shall be signed by the Chairman and he shall at each
Meeting on Taxal Wake Monday produce and lay before the Society a Statement prepared
pursuant to 10 Geo 4 Chap 56 Sectn 33 of its funds and effects specifying in whose Custody they
then remain together with an Account of the monies received and expended during the past year
and he shall furnish a Copy of this Statement to any Member who shall require the same on
payment of any sum not exceeding six pence The Secretary shall also conduct all
Correspondence relative to the Affairs of the Society

6th That the President Treasurer Stewards
and Committee together with the Secretary shall attend on every Taxal Wake Monday Meeting by
ten O'Clock in the forenoon to receive the Contributions and transact the business of the Society
at the appointed place And on the other quarterly nights they shall attend by Six O'Clock in the
Evening and in default of any such attendance each Officer so making a default shall forfeit and
pay down one Shilling except if prevented by Sickness or some important business to be allowed
by the other Officers


Wait until we get to the rules regarding fines; Lady Madonna will have to be hospitalised I'm sure.

R. S-S



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5th Admissions Subscriptions and Forfeits

1st Every male person not exceeding thirty five years of age
and above fifteen and who is not under any infirmity nor a Member of any other Society of this
kind who wishes to become a Member of this Society shall give three months’ notice to the
Secretary and pay sixpence for having his name entered as a Candidate and the Secretary shall
forthwith notify the same to the Committee who shall examine the Candidate and have the power
of calling in a medical Man to assist them in cases of doubt and the Committee shall report
thereon at the next meeting at which the Candidate shall appear If the Committee report be
satisfactory he shall be voted for by shew of hands of the Members present and the Majority shall
decide the question of Admission or rejection; if admitted he shall not afterwards become a
Member of any other Society of this nature on pain of being excluded from this On his
Admission he shall pay to the Treasurer five shillings and sixpence A Copy of the Rules shall
be delivered to him for which he shall pay not exceeding sixpence

2nd That each and every
Member of this Society shall attend personally between ten and twelve O'Clock at the General
Quarterly Meeting on the Taxal Wake Monday (unless prevented by some important concern) and
shall pay or cause to be paid to the Officers to be put into the Society's fund the sum of two
shillings and eight pence The Expenses of any dinner to be paid by those who partake thereof
No part to come out of the Funds of the Society. And if any Member or Members neglect to pay
or discharge or cause to be paid and discharged all his or their Arrears and Forfeits that may be
then due and owing to the said Society before four O'Clock at the last mentioned Meeting
he or they so neglecting shall be for ever excluded from this Society And each and every
Member shall pay or cause to be paid to the Officers at each and every other of the said quarterly
Meetings by seven O'Clock in the Evening the sum of two shillings and eight pence to be put into
the Society's fund or forfeit the sum of four pence for every neglect These Meetings to break up
on the Taxal Wake Monday by six o'clock and on the other quarterly days by nine o'clock in the
Evening

3rd That if at any time the Funds of this institution shall be reduced below the sum of
one hundred and fifty pounds then the quarterly pay of each Member shall be increased by such
Sum not exceeding two Shillings as any general Meeting may direct, such increase to continue
only whilst the Stock shall be under the amount above mentioned



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6 Fines for disorder

1st That to preserve amity and proper decorum in this Society, the following Fines
shall be inflicted on every Member, who shall transgress in any of the following Cases during the
Club hours
If any Member swear curse or take God's name in vain or shall use any atheistically or
treasonable language he shall for each offence forfeit and pay down one shilling
If any Member shall come into the room intoxicated or shall attempt to raise a quarrel, use indecorous language towards another member make or offer to make any Wager play at any kind of Game remove his
seat or refuse to be silent when commanded by any of the Officers or intrude upon the Officers in
the Room where they are sitting and transacting business for the Society he shall forfeit Six pence
for every such offence And if after the Meetings are broken up, any Member quarrels with any
other Member he shall forfeit One shilling
Any Member offending in any of the above cases and
refusing to pay the fines, shall be excluded.
All Fines and Forfeits shall be paid for the use of the
Stock or Fund

2nd Any Member who shall be convicted of any Felony or of any transportable or
infamous misdemeanour or who shall by any wilful false or fraudulent representation or demand
obtain or attempt to obtain any Money or Benefit for himself or others from the funds of this
Society, or who shall receive or attempt to receive any benefit under circumstances forbidden by
these rules, or who shall refuse to conform to these rules or to the lawful orders of the Committee
or who shall have been admitted contrary to these rules or under any false declaration, shall upon
due proof to the satisfaction of the Committee (in all cases where Penalties are not deducted, or
where directed and not paid when incurred and demanded) be excluded from this Society, and all
the Interest of such Members therein shall be forfeited to the use thereof.

3rd That if any Member
enter into his Majesty's Service as a regular Soldier, he shall be excluded, but if any Member be
ballotted into the Militia, he shall neither pay to nor receive any pay from the fund of this Society
while he remains in the Militia, but when he is discharged he shall be at liberty to pay unto and
receive from the fund the same as any other Member, except he be wounded in his Majesty's
Service and be entitled to pay or pension, then he shall no longer be considered as a Member of
this Society.



I think our dear old friend Umtali would be relieved of a few bob under rule 1.



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News reports:


Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society

Established 16 October 1818 according to rule book in possession of Jeffrey Stamper.



Ashton Reporter

18 August 1906

The old benefit society in the district is the Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society, and though the membership is only 26, arrangements are always made for an annual dinner on Wakes Monday. Held at the Royal Oak, Taxal, when about 24 of the 26 members attended. Secretary, Mr B. Rydings.


Ashton Reporter

15 August 1908

The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society, which is the oldest in the district and was established in 1816, held its annual meeting and dinner at the Royal Oak Hotel on Wakes Monday. 27 out of 29 members attended. Chair occupied by Mr Ralph Morten of Reddish. Mr Geo Pearson re-elected president; manager of Chapel-en-le-Frith Savings Bank, treasurer and Mr Benjamin Rydings secretary.


Ashton Reporter

13 August 1910

AN OLD FUNCTION MISSED. The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society is the oldest institution of its kind in the district and for a great many years it has been the custom to hold its annual dinner at the Royal Oak, Taxal, on Wakes Monday.
This year the function did not come off, it having been decided for some reason or other to postpone it until a later date.



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High Peak News

9 March 1912

OLD PEAKLAND FRIENDLY SOCIETY TO DISBAND.

The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society, which was founded in 1818, and registered in 1832, is, we understand, to be disbanded, owing to the effect caused by the Insurance bill.
This course was unanimously decided upon at a meeting held on Saturday.
The society has been a very successful one, but owing to the manner which a small society of this kind is affected by the Insurance Bill, the members consider that the best course is to disband, and it now rests with the sanction of the Registrar of Friendly Societies.
The “Dale of Goyt” was one of the oldest societies in the Peak District.


Insurance companies hmm even in 1912

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You may have already been aware of this but have attached it anyway for general interest............
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Gritch

Is that pdf complete? It seems to take upto 200Kb yet is just two small pages.

Does anyone else see more than that?



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Apologies ....hadn't realised the size of it.
Thought I was being clever combining the 2 pages - obviously not!! :oops:


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gritch wrote:Apologies ....hadn't realised the size of it.
Thought I was being clever combining the 2 pages - obviously not!! :oops:


Gritch, I always believe that size doesn't matter. I am not bothered about the size, I was amazed it took up 200KB, but then sizes of pdf are quite strange sometimes, I always expect them to be smaller. It was just page 2 seemed to end early.

Nothing to apologise for. :)



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Ashton Reporter

10 August 1912

FRIENDLY SOCIETY WOUND UP.

When the Insurance Act was passed, The Taxal and Dale of Goyt Friendly Society, of which Mr Boothby was secretary, applied for permission to wind up its affairs.
It was formed so long ago as 1818, but had only 32 members. It could not become an approved society, and the members did not see their way to throw in their lot with another order.
The requisition of Friendly Societies gave permission for the society to be wound up, and this was done at a farewell feast held at the Royal Oak, Taxal, on Saturday, when nearly all the members were present.
Each member was paid the donation due at the funeral of £6, and the remainder of the funds, which amounted to about £700, was distributed according to the number of years of membership. The amounts thus paid varied between £60 and 8s 10d.
The oldest member of the society was Mr Ebenezer Hill, of Kettleshulme, who is about 90 years of age, and was a member for over half a century, whilst the youngest was Councillor A. Sims, of Whaley, who was a member for just over two years.
In spite of his great age, Mr Hill walked from Kettleshulme to Taxal on Saturday, drew his cheque, and had his dinner and walked home again. On Tuesday he walked to Whaley to cash his cheque at the bank and then walked home.



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